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Post by Kevin on Jul 26, 2005 9:01:03 GMT -5
As I was working on the computer yeesterday, I forced myself to listen to 1080 just to see what they go over during a stretch of time. I just can't believe that the crap on there, from financial talk to horse men spreader, could, possibly have any more listeners than the old WKLO or WAKY format. Now I know that the shows are buying their time from the station, but my goodness, surely an AM oldies format would be better.
"But what do I know, I am just a caveman who was frozen in a cave for a million years." Phil hartman
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Post by Mike Griffin on Jul 26, 2005 9:34:18 GMT -5
You are hearing deregulation at it's finest.
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Post by Kevin on Jul 26, 2005 11:14:59 GMT -5
Mike,
What do you mean?
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Post by Max on Jul 26, 2005 12:05:29 GMT -5
Well, one thing deregulation did was make it possible for ownership of multiple radio stations, as well as television stations, enabling one entity to cover as many formats and markets (yes, it doesn't just apply locally), thereby killing the competition and getting all the advertising dollars. Why are none of them putting music on AM? My best guess is that they fear no one will buy spots on AM for fear everyone is listening to FM, which is about right. But no one wants to be the renegade or take the challenge of doing so.  |
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Post by RJC on Jul 29, 2005 5:28:52 GMT -5
It's kinda strange when I listen to 790 or 1080 now, and can remember when some of the most talented guys on radio, once graced those frequencies. And that the biggest hits from the best bands were played on those frequencies.  What's been allowed to happen to both 790 and 1080 should be a crime, I wonder if other cities have allowed their AM monsters to become also rans in radio?  |
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Post by Travis on Jul 29, 2005 9:14:30 GMT -5
I can understand AM stations giving way to FM and dropping music for talk shows, but if you're one of the few AM stations still playing music, today, wouldn't your station be considered as actually doing something different?
I never understood why WHAS dropped Joe Donovan from overnights. What harm could have been done by leaving him there? He probably had as many, if not more, listeners than the talk shows that replaced him.
Joe ran a unique show featuring records from his own personal collection and I could often receive WHAS right here in Venice, Florida, on a good clear night.
Before the internet and streaming audio, WHAS with Joe Donovan was my only link to what was going on at home.
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Post by Max on Jul 29, 2005 9:35:32 GMT -5
I know exactly what you mean, Travis. WHAS has an AMAZING signal. When I was living in Virginia Beach, I could pick it up occasionally after the sun went down and when I was active we were in the Atlantic coming back of the coast of either Florida or South Carolina with the radio on. We were in the torpedo magazine with the bay doors open and I could pick them up clear as a bell, just as if I was in downtown Louisville. Whenever I came home on leave I would be driving through West Virginia on the weekend and I could pick them up. There was always music on the weekend and it was a real loss when they ditched that. As a matter of fact, except for the Hodgenville country station, the only time I can get an AM music station is when I'm driving back and forth between here and Virginia, which I still do. If you cut through Virginia on 64 between 77 and 81 you can even get current music (not too current, thankfully), if you're willing to be patient enough to allow the mountains to play their tricks on the AM radio!  |
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Post by Travis on Jul 29, 2005 16:35:46 GMT -5
The unique thing about WHAS is that they are the only station at 840 on the dial, so their 50 kilowatt signal is non-directional (like one large circle).
It's my understanding that there are several stations in the U.S. that have a 50 kilowatt output, but are directional, so picking them up is relative to where you are located. And you may never pick them up at all.
When Gary Burbank left WAKY to become Program Director for WNOE, in New Orleans, I called and asked how it was going and what was the station like. He said that WNOE, like WHAS, was a 50,000 watt station, but that the power was just a prestigious selling point for the sales department. He said that the signal was actually directional and was being directed entirely out over the Gulf of Mexico. He even joked that no one in New Orleans could hear the station, but that it was #1 with fish 18 to 34 (something like that). That's Gary.
I was thankful for WHAS's power & signal as I drove to Louisville for the mini-reunion. It made it possible for me to hear Joe Elliott's interview with John Quincy as I was driving through Georgia, on the Macon by-pass, just south of Atlanta.
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Post by Dr Thompsons Ghost on Oct 2, 2005 0:21:25 GMT -5
Sorry, WHAS is not the only station at 840 kilohertz. See the list below, taken from the FCC database.
Sure some are less than 1KW but many are 10-50KW even.
WRYM AM 840 kHz DAN Daytime D B LIC NEW BRITAIN CT US
KMAX AM 840 kHz ND2 Daytime B B LIC COLFAX WA US
KWDF AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC BALL
WRYM AM 840 kHz DAN Nighttime D B LIC NEW BRITAIN CT US
KMAX AM 840 kHz ND2 Nighttime B B LIC COLFAX WA US
WBHY AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC MOBILE AL US
WHGH AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC THOMASVILLE GA US
WHAS AM 840 kHz ND1 Unlimited A A LIC LOUISVILLE KY US
WKDI AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B LIC DENTON MD US
KTIC AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC WEST POINT NE US
KXNT AM 840 kHz DA2 Daytime B B LIC NORTH LAS VEGAS NV
KXNT AM 840 kHz DA2 Nighttime B B LIC NORTH LAS VEGAS NV
KKNX AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B LIC EUGENE OR
KKNX AM 840 kHz DAD Nighttime D B LIC EUGENE OR
KSWB AM 840 kHz ND1 Daytime B B LIC SEASIDE OR
KSWB AM 840 kHz ND1 Nighttime B B LIC SEASIDE OR
WVPO AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC STROUDSBURG PA
WCEO AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B LIC COLUMBIA SC
KVJY AM 840 kHz DA2 Daytime B B LIC PHARR TX
KVJY AM 840 kHz DA2 Nighttime B B LIC PHARR TX
WKTR AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B LIC EARLYSVILLE VA
WXEW AM 840 kHz DAN Daytime B B LIC YABUCOA PR
WXEW AM 840 kHz DAN Nighttime B B LIC YABUCOA PR
WPGS AM 840 kHz NDD Daytime D B LIC MIMS FL
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Daytime B B CP MODESTO CA
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Nighttime B B CP MODESTO CA
KKNX AM 840 kHz ND2 Daytime D B CP EUGENE OR
KKNX AM 840 kHz ND2 Nighttime D B CP EUGENE OR
NEW AM 840 kHz ND2 Daytime B B APP KENAI AK
NEW AM 840 kHz ND2 Nighttime B B APP KENAI AK
WMBE AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B APP CHILTON WI
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Daytime B B CP MODESTO CA
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Nighttime B B CP MODESTO CA
NEW AM 840 kHz ND2 Daytime B B APP KENAI AK
NEW AM 840 kHz ND2 Nighttime B B APP KENAI AK
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Daytime B B CP MODESTO CA
KPMP AM 840 kHz DA2 Nighttime B B CP MODESTO CA
WMBE AM 840 kHz DAD Daytime D B APP CHILTON WI
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Post by Travis on Oct 3, 2005 17:35:24 GMT -5
Can't say that I've ever had interference from other stations, other than Spanish stations, while listening to WHAS from my home in Florida. I've always assumed that the stations were originating from Mexico or Cuba, but now I'm wondering if it's one of stations listed above. Could be an 840 in Texas.
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Post by Ben Pflederer on Oct 3, 2005 19:15:00 GMT -5
Travis, there is a station in Pharr, TX. KVJY, 840, is directional with 5 KW day and 1 KW night. Most of the day pattern is to the NW. I did not check the night array.
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Post by Travis on Oct 5, 2005 15:42:49 GMT -5
I take it that this KVJY is a spanish station? Lots of spanish speaking folks in Texas. Or as Conan O'Brien joked during Hurricane Rita's trek across the Gulf:
"Forecasters say that if Hurricane Rita strikes Texas, it could cause thousands of Mexicans to flee to Mexico." ;D
Woo-Hoo!!!
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What's been allowed to happen to both 790 and 1080 should be a crime, I wonder if other cities have allowed their AM monsters to become also rans in radio? 
